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Other Europe To Silicon Valley: Time To Pay For Your False Promises

Frigg!

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#1
Let's talk about this whole Facebook/Cambridge Analytica "privacy? what privacy?" thing. What are all y'all doing about this? I've reviewed all my FB settings and some others besides, but I think I need to do a full digital review and see what else needs disconnecting or opting out.

I'm pretty careful to opt out of darn near everything, but I'm frankly pissed that *my* information might've gotten in to Cambridge's hands because one of my friends decided to allow access to their contacts on their phone. Uh, it's my info I didn't give my permission!

Here's an article from a German paper that might start things off:

We are making the world a better place: That has been a central promise that helped Silicon Valley's Internet giants seduce the public, on their way to gaining unprecedented power over our lives. That vow remains at the heart of the message of Mark Zuckerberg and his company Facebook. The goal, as Zuckerberg has always said, is to create a large community, a global platform for sharing that would eventually bring us all closer together.

This heal-the-world rhetoric can be found everywhere on Facebook, right down to its data policy — which is supposed to make users aware of what information they’re handing over to the company and of what the side effects can be. Instead, this digital information notice begins with a sentence that says a lot about the way Facebook sees itself: “We give you the power to share as part of our mission to make the world more open and connected.” In other words, give us as much personal data as possible, and you and humanity will be better off!

You have to look at this way of thinking, this attitude — I’m just doing something good — to understand why Zuckerberg kept silent for more than three days before he finally said he was sorry, however half-hearted his apology was, for what has turned into the biggest data scandal in Facebook’s young but potent history. During those three days, the company's share price plunged while outraged politicians summoned Zuckerberg, investors threatened to sue and a “Delete Facebook” campaign spread. The public began to consider stepping off the social platform, aware that their own data could end up in the hands of Cambridge Analytica, the UK company that harvested the profiles of 50 million Facebook users — and which ultimately also helped Donald Trump win the U.S. presidential election.
"Europe would do well to oppose American-style digital capitalism."
https://www.worldcrunch.com/opinion...on-valley-time-to-pay-for-your-false-promises
 
Joined
Mar 3, 2018
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#2
This is my bailiwick. All of this was no surprise at all to me. I've been saying for years that you shouldn't post anything on facebook that you don't want to be public and not to participate in those quizzes. I've tried Google+, Ello and Diaspora as replacements, and still have accounts on all three, but it really needs a significant percentage of people I know to move for it to be viable for me. I keep up with friends and relatives far away via fb, and they just aren't moving anywhere without more motivation.

Back in October before the election, I was a little surprised to see really rabid anti-hillary messages in my feed, but not terribly surprised. I was pretty open about liking Bernie, and a significant fraction of Bernie's supporters were "never Hillary", despite Bernie's support for Hillary. I expected that was the Trump campaign targeting Bernie supporters. Perfectly legal, provided foreign governments aren't involved.

I've reached the limit on my current server and either need to expand the server or add another one. I could with a little effort set it up as a Diaspora pod as well as a regular web server, if there's interest in that. That would fb-like, but without the ads or commercial interest in data-sharing.
 

Frigg!

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#3
Well *ahem* you can see how much of my profile on FB is accurate. Not that that really matters though. It still connects to the real me via leaky privacy policies on my phone apps.

Like I posted on FB today, I sent a text to the hubby about the existence of a leftover barbacoa taco in the fridge, and today I see an ad for a restarant with some barbacoa (goat) dish they have on the menu.

Sorry FB and Verizon, but I didn't give permission for you two to talk to each other.

Google+ wanted my real name. Nope, sorry, I didn't even try.
I looked at Ello, but part of a social network is who is there for you to socialize with (I'm Mason Jar if anyone ends up there).

I haven't tried Diaspora, but on some of the health pages I'm on I see people heading over there so they can keep a group intact against a mere handful of "anti-woo" trolls intent on shutting down subjects they know nothing about but percieve as "anti-science".

Yeah, I just can't stay connected with most people if I'm not on FB at all. it's where people are. If they shift, well maybe.

I mean ToyBoxOrphan and I built this place in the hope we can gather enough folks to do more than just stay connected, but just have a chat about whatever seems interesting.
 
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Mar 2, 2018
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#4
OK I haven't had FB dig into my texts yet but it's almost a guarantee that if I look at something on Amazon I'll start seeing FB ads for it all over my feed.
 
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