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ToyBoxOrphan

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#21
Well, the obvious difference is that tornadoes and (to a lesser extent) fires are natural occurrences. Shootings, not so much. So I think there's a distinction that can be made there.
Well bomb drills are not a natural occurrence.

In other words, why is the burden on me? Yeah, it's a good idea for me to know how to defend myself, but it's a better idea for all of us to know self control.
The burden isn't just on you. It's literally on everyone.
I don’t recall doing bomb drills, but definitely tornado and fire. Point taken on the burden.
You're older than me, I think, so that's kind of surprising to me. We did at least 2 bomb drills a year in elementary school. Doc D tells me it was the same for him. We were in different school districts, but both in Georgia. It was all regarded as a very normal thing to do and nobody suffered any trauma. I don't recall seeing a single scared person, in fact. We were just doing drills just in case we needed it later. We also did school bus escape drills.
 
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#22
Well, the obvious difference is that tornadoes and (to a lesser extent) fires are natural occurrences. Shootings, not so much. So I think there's a distinction that can be made there.
Well bomb drills are not a natural occurrence.

In other words, why is the burden on me? Yeah, it's a good idea for me to know how to defend myself, but it's a better idea for all of us to know self control.
The burden isn't just on you. It's literally on everyone.
I don’t recall doing bomb drills, but definitely tornado and fire. Point taken on the burden.
You're older than me, I think, so that's kind of surprising to me. We did at least 2 bomb drills a year in elementary school. Doc D tells me it was the same for him. We were in different school districts, but both in Georgia. It was all regarded as a very normal thing to do and nobody suffered any trauma. I don't recall seeing a single scared person, in fact. We were just doing drills just in case we needed it later. We also did school bus escape drills.
Yeah, I’m 51. Not the oldest here, I’m sure, but older than some. 😂

ETA: my daughter did lockdown drills, as well as tornado and fire drills, but I don’t recall her ever saying anything about bomb drills specifically. I recall these mostly didn’t bother her except after a specific student who was a classmate of hers until he moved, and shot and killed a teacher st his new school. He was national news but I can’t recall his name.
 
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#23
Fire and earthquake drills for us. But bomb threats and active shooter situations at schools were unheard of in the 80s so we didn't have drills for those.
 
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I am a tad older than some of you. I am 62. I only remember doing fire drills at school. I don’t remember tornado drills, even though I lived in Indiana, where tornadoes could happen. As an adult, we had both tornado drills and fire drills at work in Ohio. I do not remember any bomb drills but we did have some bomb scares where someone called and said there was a bomb in the building and the building had to be evacuated. People left the building without their keys and purses and stuff. They could not get back in the building until it was cleared by police. So a number of people had problems getting home.

I do remember people talking about “duck and cover” nuclear drills. (Or at least there is a song and video about it. It is pretty cheerful sounding considering the subject.). I think these were discontinued by the time I went there school in the 60’s.

I also remember that my grandparents had an actual fall-out shelter in their backyard so they were prepared for a nuclear attack.
 
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#28
I'm 56 and went to seven different schools (my family moved a lot). Everyplace I was had fire drills. California had earthquake drills. The first high school was once evacuated for a bomb threat (not a drill, but no bomb, either - probably some student trying to get out of a test). I don't recall there being any other drills.

One of my earliest memories (if not the earliest) is of a preschool fire drill. I'm pretty sure I wasn't yet three years old and I had no idea what was going on until after it was over and one of the other kids explained it to me.
 
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#29
My brother packed a gun to school for years and never once had a back pack. In fact, he would roll up what ever paper work he had and would toss it to the trash as soon as he exited class. He is one of thousands of sureños across the country and he isn't alone in hating backpacks....

I wouldn't personally care about the implementation of the clear backpacks. I've been around some rather thuggish and salty dudes to know they aren't stupid enough to put a gun in clear sight.

However, we aren't just talking about your everyday criminal here are we?

No one would give two shits if my brother blasted another thug in school. At least not to the level we see today. They'd take precautions and talk about it of course, but it would in no way be approached in the same way.

This is just the schools in conjunction with the government saying "look everyone, we are doing something"......and something is always better than nothing.

If there is any money going to this implementation at different bureaucratic levels just to make others feel better......ok, I get it. But it doesn't make me feel better in the slightest. That could be because I've seen the level of sophistication in the criminal world and as I said above, criminals see what we see and more.

I'd much rather most money go to programs aimed at helping mental health and stricter gun laws.

I would also educate kids on guns whereby parents can sign a waiver and attend with their child............I've seen absolutely horrendous and idiotic comments on this or that gun.......and people swallow it. It's like people don't give a shit what a certain gun can or can't do when there is a death. Which is a perfect time to pass an agenda driven legislation.

Just my thoughts for what it's worth.
 

ToyBoxOrphan

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#30
I've seen absolutely horrendous and idiotic comments on this or that gun.......and people swallow it. It's like people don't give a shit what a certain gun can or can't do when there is a death. Which is a perfect time to pass an agenda driven legislation.
A lot of what I've seen is that people just don't even want to learn about guns. They do not care that they are wrong on a lot of things and they don't think it matters.
 

Frigg!

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#31
I am a tad older than some of you. I am 62. I only remember doing fire drills at school. I don’t remember tornado drills, even though I lived in Indiana, where tornadoes could happen. As an adult, we had both tornado drills and fire drills at work in Ohio. I do not remember any bomb drills but we did have some bomb scares where someone called and said there was a bomb in the building and the building had to be evacuated. People left the building without their keys and purses and stuff. They could not get back in the building until it was cleared by police. So a number of people had problems getting home.
Yeah, I'm 59 and we did fire drills, but certainly tornado drills too. Duck and Cover had done with by then, but I remember that song and video you mean! Yeah, it's terrible cheerful considering the subject matter isn't it?

I also remember that my grandparents had an actual fall-out shelter in their backyard so they were prepared for a nuclear attack.
I always wished we had one of those. It would've made a nice quiet place to read undisturbed. :)

But no, we never had bomb drills in school. No one was blowing up any bombs in school. The Weather Underground didn't use schools for a target. Their aims were political.

We probably should've had race riot drills and lockdowns, considering. I mean 3 boys in my brother's home room stayed behind during a riot to "protect the girls" and they were beaten to death. I don't think he's ever gotten over that.

It's interesting how the same events can cause people to learn very different lessons. He learned to be racist. I learned that race was the stupidest idea ever and we just seriously needed to get rid of it.
 
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